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10 replies, 2 voices Last updated by  leonk70 2 months, 3 weeks ago
  • leonk70
    Participant
    @leonk70
    #10378

    Hi there.

    I am looking for something where say a matrix of 3×8 is set up, with person A at the top, his first level then will be B, C and D. When his matrix is filled up to level 8, he should cycle off, get a bonus and start a new matrix at level 0.

    This is the first criteria.

    Thanks, looking forward to your reply.

  • Christian Freeman
    Participant
    @christianf
    #10382

    Greetings,

    Yes, you can set that up quite easily with our AffiliateWP MLM add-on, and our Performance Bonuses add-on. For the Matrix Structure, you would simply set it to a Width of 3 and a Depth of 8 (With Forced Matrix enabled). Then, you would change the number of Cycles from the default 1, to the number of times you want to allow them to complete their Matrix of 3 x 8. The Parent Affiliate would still have their initial Cycle of Sub Affiliates though. They don’t disappear or break off.

    Then, in the Bonuses tab, you can create a Bonus that automatically awards them a certain amount when they complete X number of Cycles.

    What other requirements do you have in mind?

  • leonk70
    Participant
    @leonk70
    #10383

    Hi Christian

    Thanks for the reply.

    Concerning your reply:
    1) Just to clarify, I will need both your plugins?
    2) Can the number of cycles be infinite?
    3) After the parent cycled and started a new matrix, can he be deleted manually from the initial matrix?
    4) If he is not deleted, will the first level then be seen each as a parent with their “own” matrix?
    5) Can the bonus be set for each time a matrix is filled?

    Additional questions:
    1) Can a certain affiliate join his own matrix, OR, start a second or third matrix in parallel with the first one?
    2) Can the system be set for a “pay to join” through say a bank transfer or a Woocommerce purchase?
    3) If a new affiliate comes in without an affiliate link, can he/she manually select the parent they would like to join?
    4) I know this is a long shot as I do not think WordPress will allow this, but can one create multiple accounts with different usernames, but use the same email?

    I know this sounds a lot like a “pyramid scheme”, and that is what I also call it, but it is for a “Stokvel” site and the client assured me that under our current laws and regulations for “Stokvels” this is all legal, as this is one of the many structures the locals have used for some time now.

    Kind regards
    Leon

  • Christian Freeman
    Participant
    @christianf
    #10389

    To answer your initial questions:
    1) Yes, you will need both MLM and Performance Bonuses to do what you are explaining.

    2) No, you have to set the number of Cycles in order for the system to determine how large each affiliate’s network can expand before new affiliates “Spillover” to their Downline Sub Affiliates. But you can use a high number if you want (Like 20 for example). Just keep in mind that the Matrix Settings apply to every affiliate. So every affiliate will have the ability to recruit a Downline of 3 x 8, multiplied by the number of Cycles that you set it to.

    3) Technically, you could manually disconnect the 3 Sub Affiliates beneath that Parent Affiliate in order to detach them from that first Cycle/Matrix, but for ethical reasons, I wouldn’t recommend doing that. Especially since you intend to award a Bonus for each Completed Cycle. If you disconnect the Sub Affiliates from the 1st Cycle, the system will not be able to tell that the affiliate has already completed their 1st Cycle. Therfore, it will be impossible to complete their 2nd Cycle and beyond.

    4) Yes, each Parent Affiliate has their own Personal Matrix/Downline.

    5) Yes, this is what I was explaining. Each Cycle is a complete Matrix. So you can create a Bonus for each Completed Cycle. For example:

    Cycle 1 Bonus = $100 (Complete the 1st Cycle)
    Cycle 2 Bonus = $200 (Complete the 2nd Cycle)
    Cycle 3 Bonus = $300 (Complete the 3rd Cycle)

    Your additional questions:
    1) No, it’s not possible for an affiliate to join his own Downline/Matrix. Each affiliate has one WordPress User account linked to it, with one email address (You can have a separate payment email though). So the only way to do this, would be for the affiliate to sign up again with a separate email address. But again, I don’t recommend this.

    2) Actually, we have a Paid Affiliates add-on that we have yet to release, which does just that. It allows you to setup a product in WooCommerce, and automatically create an affiliate account for the users that purchase it. It also integrates with the WooCommerce Subscriptions plugin to synchronize their Subscription with their affiliate account. This way, if they don’t pay for their weekly/monthly/yearly subscription, it automatically disables their affiliate account until they do.

    3) There are a few options for setting this up:

    A) You set a Default Affiliate, and all new non-referred affiliates automatically get assigned to the Downline of the Default Affiliate. (Highly recommended)

    B) You allow new non-referred affiliates to enter in the Username, or Affiliate ID of the Default Affiliate that you choose, using the MLM plugin’s Referrer Field (Can be combined with the option above). If you want, you can even require that they have a Referring Affiliate in order to register.

    c) If using WooCommerce, you can use the AffiliatewP Checkout Referrals (Free) add-on to allow your customers to choose the referring affiliate from a list, during checkout.

    Note: Option B uses the Default Affiliate Registration Form to register affiliates.

    4) No. As I mentioned above, each affiliate account can only be linked to one WordPress user account, which can only have one email address attached to it.

    Yes, this sounds like what they call a “Breakaway Plan”. Some MLM companies do use it, but I think it’s an ethically gray area. Mainly, because you are taking away the Downline that the person already built once they start a new one. That’s why I usually don’t recommend this sort of Compensation Plan/Structure.

  • leonk70
    Participant
    @leonk70
    #10392

    Hi Christian

    Thanks for the reply.

    The new plugin, when will it be released, and cost?

    I know that some of the things that I have mentioned might sound a bit dodgy in a normal affiliate setup. But that is not how we are going to use it.
    This is basically just to manage the matrix structure. How the program works is that a member joins for a small fee, recruit 3 members under him/her or more that will spill over. When the 3×5 matrix is full, member A gets a bonus and breaks off to start a new matrix, then B,C and D are at the top of their individual matrixes, and so on…

    What will happen IF, we use your new plugin and a member purchases a second “subscription” and use his/her own referral to sign up?

    Kind regards
    Leon

  • Christian Freeman
    Participant
    @christianf
    #10394

    You could do that, but because of the WordPress limitation of only one email address per user account, the second subscription would have to be purchased using an entirely different email address and user account. So, the affiliate would have to have 2 separate affiliate accounts with 2 separate email addresses.

    In this case, yes, the affiliate could signup for the 2nd account using their 1st account’s referral link.

    Regarding the release of the Paid Affiliates add-on, it’s actually finished now, I just have to post it on the marketplace and get the Documentation started. I can have it ready for release within the next 7 days for sure.

  • Christian Freeman
    Participant
    @christianf
    #10395

    Oh, and the price of the Paid Affiliates add-on will most likely be set at $49 (Regular price), with a special launch discount.

  • leonk70
    Participant
    @leonk70
    #10396

    Hi Christian

    Thanks a lot for the replies and info, I will get back to you after the weekend. So far, it seems that I might set up something that will cover most of the bases.

    Kind regards
    Leon

  • leonk70
    Participant
    @leonk70
    #10398

    Hi Christian

    Just one more clarification. If member A cycles off when his matrix is full, will B,C and D then be at the top of their own matrixes?

    Kind regards
    Leon

  • Christian Freeman
    Participant
    @christianf
    #10400

    Hi Leon,

    Yes, technically every Parent Affiliate is automatically at the top of their own Personal Matrix, regardless of who their Parent Affiliate is, or if they even have one. So, unless you enable Total Depth, every affiliate has the ability to build a 3 x 5 Matrix of their own (Personal Matrix).

  • leonk70
    Participant
    @leonk70
    #10401

    Thanks, Christian, much appreciated.

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